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		<title>By: Hank Thiele</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wheres-the-rd-in-education/comment-page-1#comment-25741</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Thiele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quentin,

I think I am starting to understand your point better - that this is not new - unfortunately in education it seems that the really good ideas that would require major change are often ignored and we choose band-aid solutions instead of really working at making a difference.  People want proof that something will make a difference, but are rarely willing to invest the time and effort it takes to get evidence.  It seems to me that educators usually don&#039;t change until it is so apparent that they are actually behind the change.  Most of the time this happens because we administrators don&#039;t take the time to understand the change-makers in the classroom.  Once we start supporting the teachers that are doing great things, and stop wavering on our ideals for those that don&#039;t embrace change, educational reform might happen. We still aren&#039;t doing things that Dewey unveiled to us nearly 100 years ago.  What my point from the beginning was that schools need to invest time and money into investigating how to make these changes happen - to be proactive - rather than responsive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quentin,</p>
<p>I think I am starting to understand your point better &#8211; that this is not new &#8211; unfortunately in education it seems that the really good ideas that would require major change are often ignored and we choose band-aid solutions instead of really working at making a difference.  People want proof that something will make a difference, but are rarely willing to invest the time and effort it takes to get evidence.  It seems to me that educators usually don&#8217;t change until it is so apparent that they are actually behind the change.  Most of the time this happens because we administrators don&#8217;t take the time to understand the change-makers in the classroom.  Once we start supporting the teachers that are doing great things, and stop wavering on our ideals for those that don&#8217;t embrace change, educational reform might happen. We still aren&#8217;t doing things that Dewey unveiled to us nearly 100 years ago.  What my point from the beginning was that schools need to invest time and money into investigating how to make these changes happen &#8211; to be proactive &#8211; rather than responsive.</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin DSouza</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wheres-the-rd-in-education/comment-page-1#comment-25737</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin DSouza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Hank,

I was pointing out that the process already exists within the framework of educational research design (action research is one example).  Unfortunately, I don&#039;t know your background well enough to predict what you know.  One of the things that I am learning through my experiences in the edublogsphere, is that sometimes we think that we are reinventing the wheel, when educational theory abounds in these areas.  If we want to raise the level of discussion from high school banter into educational reform, we need to keep existing theories in mind, in order to make breakthroughs into higher levels of discourse and new theories. But - what do I know, I&#039;m just a teacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Hank,</p>
<p>I was pointing out that the process already exists within the framework of educational research design (action research is one example).  Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t know your background well enough to predict what you know.  One of the things that I am learning through my experiences in the edublogsphere, is that sometimes we think that we are reinventing the wheel, when educational theory abounds in these areas.  If we want to raise the level of discussion from high school banter into educational reform, we need to keep existing theories in mind, in order to make breakthroughs into higher levels of discourse and new theories. But &#8211; what do I know, I&#8217;m just a teacher.</p>
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		<title>By: natalie</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wheres-the-rd-in-education/comment-page-1#comment-25736</link>
		<dc:creator>natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why we don&#039;t have this yet - this is a necessary thing. Teachers are feeling overwhelmed with differentiating, supporting individualized education plans, and transforming instruction to 21st century goals.  We need the time to change our instruction to engaged students. Completely agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why we don&#8217;t have this yet &#8211; this is a necessary thing. Teachers are feeling overwhelmed with differentiating, supporting individualized education plans, and transforming instruction to 21st century goals.  We need the time to change our instruction to engaged students. Completely agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Thiele</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wheres-the-rd-in-education/comment-page-1#comment-25727</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Thiele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite familiar with action resarch (used it for my dissertation) If R&amp;D is &quot;creative work undertaken on a systematic basis in order to increase the stock of knowledge, including knowledge of man, culture and society, and the use of this stock of knowledge to devise new applications&quot;... R&amp;D investment generally reflects a government&#039;s or organization&#039;s willingness to forego current operations or profit to improve future performance or returns, and its abilities to conduct research and development.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_and_development

Then yes it is a form of Action Research that I feel also qualifes for R&amp;D

If the goal in education is to help our students learn (better) and money we are spending isn&#039;t going towards that goal (education&#039;s profit)- how does that not qualify as R&amp;D?  Especially if you are using it to gather information to see if a resource might be able to help increase learning in the future?

Maybe I just don&#039;t understand what you are qualifying as R&amp;D...but I am interested in learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite familiar with action resarch (used it for my dissertation) If R&amp;D is &#8220;creative work undertaken on a systematic basis in order to increase the stock of knowledge, including knowledge of man, culture and society, and the use of this stock of knowledge to devise new applications&#8221;&#8230; R&amp;D investment generally reflects a government&#8217;s or organization&#8217;s willingness to forego current operations or profit to improve future performance or returns, and its abilities to conduct research and development.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_and_development" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_and_development</a></p>
<p>Then yes it is a form of Action Research that I feel also qualifes for R&amp;D</p>
<p>If the goal in education is to help our students learn (better) and money we are spending isn&#8217;t going towards that goal (education&#8217;s profit)- how does that not qualify as R&amp;D?  Especially if you are using it to gather information to see if a resource might be able to help increase learning in the future?</p>
<p>Maybe I just don&#8217;t understand what you are qualifying as R&amp;D&#8230;but I am interested in learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin DSouza</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wheres-the-rd-in-education/comment-page-1#comment-25726</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin DSouza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Education has a rich history of &quot;Action Research&quot; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_research to which I think you are alluding to when you say R and D. 

see &lt;a href=&quot;http://amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/103-2389127-2191818?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=action+research&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Education has a rich history of &#8220;Action Research&#8221; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_research" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_research</a> to which I think you are alluding to when you say R and D. </p>
<p>see <a href="http://amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/103-2389127-2191818?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=action+research" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hank Thiele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Thiele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, it can&#039;t be the oly thing - and it isn&#039;t very formal - but it is better than not experimenting and trying.  Hopefully once educational institutions see that they can learn things from informal R&amp;D they will be more apt to invest time and money in formal R&amp;D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, it can&#8217;t be the oly thing &#8211; and it isn&#8217;t very formal &#8211; but it is better than not experimenting and trying.  Hopefully once educational institutions see that they can learn things from informal R&amp;D they will be more apt to invest time and money in formal R&amp;D.</p>
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		<title>By: Education Investigation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Looking Back &#8230;&#8230; Looking Forward</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wheres-the-rd-in-education/comment-page-1#comment-25718</link>
		<dc:creator>Education Investigation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Looking Back &#8230;&#8230; Looking Forward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] noticed that Jeff Utecht has shared on his blog &#8220;The Thinking Stick&#8221; &#8220;I would love if every teacher got 20% R&amp;D [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] noticed that Jeff Utecht has shared on his blog &#8220;The Thinking Stick&#8221; &#8220;I would love if every teacher got 20% R&amp;D [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin DSouza</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wheres-the-rd-in-education/comment-page-1#comment-25716</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin DSouza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if anecdotal responses based on feedback /communication is enough to encompass the idea of R &amp; D.  This seems like an oversimplification of research design and application of educational theory.  I could see it as part of the process but not the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if anecdotal responses based on feedback /communication is enough to encompass the idea of R &amp; D.  This seems like an oversimplification of research design and application of educational theory.  I could see it as part of the process but not the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Thiele</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wheres-the-rd-in-education/comment-page-1#comment-25710</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Thiele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can participate in my attempts at education R&amp;D here http://henrythiele.blogspot.com/2007/11/asus-eee-series-pc.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can participate in my attempts at education R&amp;D here <a href="http://henrythiele.blogspot.com/2007/11/asus-eee-series-pc.html" rel="nofollow">http://henrythiele.blogspot.com/2007/11/asus-eee-series-pc.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karyn Romeis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karyn Romeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Early on in my current MA course, we had to write a critical evaluation of a paper by Prof Hargreaves which contrasted the R&amp;D practices of medicine and education. I wish I could provide a reference, but, while I find many citations of the paper, I don&#039;t find the paper itself online.

Anyhow, for what it&#039;s worth, &lt;a href=&quot;http://karynromeis.blogspot.com/2006/09/education-research-not-off-to-good.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this was my initial reaction&lt;/a&gt; to the paper (before I even knew what I was supposed to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early on in my current MA course, we had to write a critical evaluation of a paper by Prof Hargreaves which contrasted the R&amp;D practices of medicine and education. I wish I could provide a reference, but, while I find many citations of the paper, I don&#8217;t find the paper itself online.</p>
<p>Anyhow, for what it&#8217;s worth, <a href="http://karynromeis.blogspot.com/2006/09/education-research-not-off-to-good.html" rel="nofollow">this was my initial reaction</a> to the paper (before I even knew what I was supposed to do with it.</p>
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