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		<title>By: Justin Hardman</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26922</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Hardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff,

I echo a lot of your comments about NECC. I too felt as though it was fast paced. I often wanted to take breaks (which I did) but that meant missing sessions I would have liked to attended.

The best organized conference I&#039;ve ever attended was Online Educa in Berlin. There most of the sessions are panel sessions for 1.5 or two hours. All sessions have 20 minutes at least in between with free coffee and tea provided. This works really well as after the sessions you have time to interact with presenters and talk with fellow attendees (not rushing off). I also think this works well becuase quite frankly a lot of people don&#039;t have the content or presentation skills to fill up an hour. Better to hear five people talk briefly (10 minutes each) on a connected issue and have time for questions. This format allows you to see more and is more interactive. of course having hour longs for people like Warlick is important (and Educa has that as well) but it should not be the defacto format. I went to some forums at NECC but they did not seem to be well regulated in terms of how they were run (long transition times between presentations, not always time for questions, etc).

One comment on Learning 2.0. Although I like the idea of 20 people per room the problem with this is people do not spread out evenly on the sessions. One comment I heard a lot last year about 2.0 is that it was easy to miss a lot of the keynote level speakers. I&#039;d encourage more keynotes with backchat. At least one a day (but not need for the speaker intro which just wastes time). have less simultaneous sessions, it is hard for teacher presenters to &#039;compete&#039; with the headliners!

Cheers.
Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>I echo a lot of your comments about NECC. I too felt as though it was fast paced. I often wanted to take breaks (which I did) but that meant missing sessions I would have liked to attended.</p>
<p>The best organized conference I&#8217;ve ever attended was Online Educa in Berlin. There most of the sessions are panel sessions for 1.5 or two hours. All sessions have 20 minutes at least in between with free coffee and tea provided. This works really well as after the sessions you have time to interact with presenters and talk with fellow attendees (not rushing off). I also think this works well becuase quite frankly a lot of people don&#8217;t have the content or presentation skills to fill up an hour. Better to hear five people talk briefly (10 minutes each) on a connected issue and have time for questions. This format allows you to see more and is more interactive. of course having hour longs for people like Warlick is important (and Educa has that as well) but it should not be the defacto format. I went to some forums at NECC but they did not seem to be well regulated in terms of how they were run (long transition times between presentations, not always time for questions, etc).</p>
<p>One comment on Learning 2.0. Although I like the idea of 20 people per room the problem with this is people do not spread out evenly on the sessions. One comment I heard a lot last year about 2.0 is that it was easy to miss a lot of the keynote level speakers. I&#8217;d encourage more keynotes with backchat. At least one a day (but not need for the speaker intro which just wastes time). have less simultaneous sessions, it is hard for teacher presenters to &#8216;compete&#8217; with the headliners!</p>
<p>Cheers.<br />
Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Cormack</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26917</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Cormack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff,
I&#039;m not at NECC this year. I&#039;m taking a break for many of the reasons you&#039;ve talked about in this post and your last. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re using your time at NECC to reflect on making Learning 2.008 great again this year. It was great last year and though nothing is like the first time ;-) I&#039;m hoping we can keep the magic going again this year. 

One thing that I might add to your thoughts on designing and organizing a conference would be context. By this I mean that the attendees come from a similar context. At Learning 2.0 the context is international schools. Of course diversity is important and one needs to guard against group think but it can be beneficial when people are trying to apply what they hear to similar contexts. At Learning 2.0 most people are trying to apply the ideas they hear and the tools they see to an international school context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff,<br />
I&#8217;m not at NECC this year. I&#8217;m taking a break for many of the reasons you&#8217;ve talked about in this post and your last. I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re using your time at NECC to reflect on making Learning 2.008 great again this year. It was great last year and though nothing is like the first time <img src='http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m hoping we can keep the magic going again this year. </p>
<p>One thing that I might add to your thoughts on designing and organizing a conference would be context. By this I mean that the attendees come from a similar context. At Learning 2.0 the context is international schools. Of course diversity is important and one needs to guard against group think but it can be beneficial when people are trying to apply what they hear to similar contexts. At Learning 2.0 most people are trying to apply the ideas they hear and the tools they see to an international school context.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26911</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the thinking by the conference organizers is that a large chunk of the attendees will be spending their time on the exhibit floor.  I suspect that&#039;s not happening this year (with good reason).

I agree that the bloggers lounge (and most of the rest of them for that matter), are in lousy locations.  It&#039;s hard to have a conversation with a few people, much less a larger discussion/presentation with all the noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the thinking by the conference organizers is that a large chunk of the attendees will be spending their time on the exhibit floor.  I suspect that&#8217;s not happening this year (with good reason).</p>
<p>I agree that the bloggers lounge (and most of the rest of them for that matter), are in lousy locations.  It&#8217;s hard to have a conversation with a few people, much less a larger discussion/presentation with all the noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Lehman</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26910</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Lehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are some great points and actually are the opposite of what I first thought.  My first impression of the space in general was pretty good.  I haven&#039;t been to a conference this big, but I did think that the space was manageable.  However, after trying to get into a few sessions several minutes early and finding standing room only, I&#039;m certainly leaning more to the same line of thinking as Jeff.  As far as the Bloggers&#039; Cafe - I like that it&#039;s somewhat centrally located, but the bandwidth problems yesterday were frustrating.  I love the concept and it&#039;s been great to meet people I read and follow. 

As far as the number of sessions offered - I don&#039;t think more is better.  In my case, I already have several I want to attend at the same time - which makes decision making challenging.  If I had 7 or 8 to choose from, I&#039;d go nuts. 

I&#039;m sure organizers have a hard time figuring out what sessions are going to be packed and which ones aren&#039;t, but perhaps a fix would be asking people who had a packed session to repeat it another time and day.  Maybe logistics would make this difficult, but it&#039;s a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are some great points and actually are the opposite of what I first thought.  My first impression of the space in general was pretty good.  I haven&#8217;t been to a conference this big, but I did think that the space was manageable.  However, after trying to get into a few sessions several minutes early and finding standing room only, I&#8217;m certainly leaning more to the same line of thinking as Jeff.  As far as the Bloggers&#8217; Cafe &#8211; I like that it&#8217;s somewhat centrally located, but the bandwidth problems yesterday were frustrating.  I love the concept and it&#8217;s been great to meet people I read and follow. </p>
<p>As far as the number of sessions offered &#8211; I don&#8217;t think more is better.  In my case, I already have several I want to attend at the same time &#8211; which makes decision making challenging.  If I had 7 or 8 to choose from, I&#8217;d go nuts. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure organizers have a hard time figuring out what sessions are going to be packed and which ones aren&#8217;t, but perhaps a fix would be asking people who had a packed session to repeat it another time and day.  Maybe logistics would make this difficult, but it&#8217;s a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26909</link>
		<dc:creator>Alicia Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure that ASCD went through similar experiences as NECC before they developed the not-often-favored ticketing method for some workshops.  The downside to an abundance of sessions that I&#039;ve seen is that often there are presenters (often funded) who have traveled a good distance to present to an audience of six.

I can&#039;t stop thinking that as presenters and workshop organizers, we need to &quot;Conference by Design&quot; - determine the enduring understandings and work backwards from there.  If we allow our students a few moments to reflect, what is it that stops us from those moments of silence at the end of a presentation/workshop?  Imagine a surveymonkey-type eval that participants could take away that asked &quot;The thing that stood out the most. . .&quot; or &quot;My next steps are&quot;. . . 

In EdTech, there is so much that is worth being familiar with AND important to know and be able to do, but, when it&#039;s all over, what do we want to endure in the minds of participants?

Sounds like you&#039;re well on your way in that mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure that ASCD went through similar experiences as NECC before they developed the not-often-favored ticketing method for some workshops.  The downside to an abundance of sessions that I&#8217;ve seen is that often there are presenters (often funded) who have traveled a good distance to present to an audience of six.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t stop thinking that as presenters and workshop organizers, we need to &#8220;Conference by Design&#8221; &#8211; determine the enduring understandings and work backwards from there.  If we allow our students a few moments to reflect, what is it that stops us from those moments of silence at the end of a presentation/workshop?  Imagine a surveymonkey-type eval that participants could take away that asked &#8220;The thing that stood out the most. . .&#8221; or &#8220;My next steps are&#8221;. . . </p>
<p>In EdTech, there is so much that is worth being familiar with AND important to know and be able to do, but, when it&#8217;s all over, what do we want to endure in the minds of participants?</p>
<p>Sounds like you&#8217;re well on your way in that mode.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Wilkoff</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26908</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Wilkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the comments on this post are really important. We are always touting (and more so recently) the DIY nature of what we are doing. So, rather than being tied to what has already been set up for unconference style learning, set up your own. I think it would be much more interesting to tweet out where you will be for the next hour and see who shows up. Tell people what you are doing on your laptop or in your head via a synchronous network, and I have no doubt that the eduPunks will come a running. Anyway, I really like that the comments on this post are talking about owning NECC 2008, rather than bemoaning the fact that it isn&#039;t NECC 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the comments on this post are really important. We are always touting (and more so recently) the DIY nature of what we are doing. So, rather than being tied to what has already been set up for unconference style learning, set up your own. I think it would be much more interesting to tweet out where you will be for the next hour and see who shows up. Tell people what you are doing on your laptop or in your head via a synchronous network, and I have no doubt that the eduPunks will come a running. Anyway, I really like that the comments on this post are talking about owning NECC 2008, rather than bemoaning the fact that it isn&#8217;t NECC 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26907</link>
		<dc:creator>Bud Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Room 212B.  Available.  Only used for one session tomorrow.  Just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Room 212B.  Available.  Only used for one session tomorrow.  Just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Educational Technology and Life &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NECC 08 Highlights: Monday</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26906</link>
		<dc:creator>Educational Technology and Life &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NECC 08 Highlights: Monday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I commented on Jeff&#8217;s post I think the Global Connections cafe (where the CUE social was) might be perfect as an alternate [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I commented on Jeff&#8217;s post I think the Global Connections cafe (where the CUE social was) might be perfect as an alternate [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Shareski</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26905</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Shareski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark and Scott,

Let&#039;s do it...make it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark and Scott,</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s do it&#8230;make it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/thoughts-on-conferences/comment-page-1#comment-26904</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see all the thought you are putting into the format for Learning 2.008, Jeff. 

Reading bits of the blogs so far on NECC it seems like a whole lot of hand wringing-- a mentor early on in my career said the most important thing about doing these events are just getting people together in one place for a meaningful purpose. There&#039;s only so much you can do.

I&#039;m curious why the model is based on such low numbers per session- perhaps the venue space limits? There is a downside to running 50 simultaneous sessions in that you make the program densely overwhelming AND the presenters themselves miss a lot of sessions. I attended SXSW Interactive this year, and it is a huge event, NECC scale.. even the &quot;smaller&quot; sessions had seating for 100-150.

Also not to be underestimated is building a lot of padding time between sessions- at SXSW it was at least 30 minutes. We talk about the action taking place in the halls, yet most programs end up like crazy class schedules with 10-15 minutes to scramble. No wonder people  are dragging zombies after a few days.

I know you are thinking alot on busting up the normal conference format, and if you can move it farther away from the lecture mode of sessions, you will have really cut a new path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see all the thought you are putting into the format for Learning 2.008, Jeff. </p>
<p>Reading bits of the blogs so far on NECC it seems like a whole lot of hand wringing&#8211; a mentor early on in my career said the most important thing about doing these events are just getting people together in one place for a meaningful purpose. There&#8217;s only so much you can do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious why the model is based on such low numbers per session- perhaps the venue space limits? There is a downside to running 50 simultaneous sessions in that you make the program densely overwhelming AND the presenters themselves miss a lot of sessions. I attended SXSW Interactive this year, and it is a huge event, NECC scale.. even the &#8220;smaller&#8221; sessions had seating for 100-150.</p>
<p>Also not to be underestimated is building a lot of padding time between sessions- at SXSW it was at least 30 minutes. We talk about the action taking place in the halls, yet most programs end up like crazy class schedules with 10-15 minutes to scramble. No wonder people  are dragging zombies after a few days.</p>
<p>I know you are thinking alot on busting up the normal conference format, and if you can move it farther away from the lecture mode of sessions, you will have really cut a new path.</p>
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