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	<title>Comments on: NECC is about conversations</title>
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	<description>Jeff Utecht - Bangkok, Thailand</description>
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		<title>By: Chad Lehman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Lehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I enjoyed the session at EBC about Twitter and blogging. I think your topic made a lot of people think about these tools.  

You&#039;re right about the conversations.  I&#039;d like to see large blocks of time available at all conferences where nothing is scheduled.  This would give more people an opportunity to be involved in these sessions instead of choosing between the informal conversations and the sessions.  Maybe the mornings should be session time and the afternoons be conversation time - time to reflect on any learning that might have taken place at a prior time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I enjoyed the session at EBC about Twitter and blogging. I think your topic made a lot of people think about these tools.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about the conversations.  I&#8217;d like to see large blocks of time available at all conferences where nothing is scheduled.  This would give more people an opportunity to be involved in these sessions instead of choosing between the informal conversations and the sessions.  Maybe the mornings should be session time and the afternoons be conversation time &#8211; time to reflect on any learning that might have taken place at a prior time.</p>
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		<title>By: John Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conventions and workshops are great ways to network and I get to attend a workshop on a new course I&#039;m teaching next year and will get a chance to rub elbows with teachers in the new county I&#039;m going to be working in. Is there any type of Blogger&#039;s Cafe in Atlanta, Georgia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conventions and workshops are great ways to network and I get to attend a workshop on a new course I&#8217;m teaching next year and will get a chance to rub elbows with teachers in the new county I&#8217;m going to be working in. Is there any type of Blogger&#8217;s Cafe in Atlanta, Georgia?</p>
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		<title>By: Keri-Lee Beasley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keri-Lee Beasley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree more Jeff. I&#039;m jealous of all those who got to attend NECC09, not necessarily because of the fabulous workshops held, but because of those unplanned conversations with people you have been corresponding with on Twitter for ages, but finally get to meet, and of course those who you didn&#039;t know were out there, but stumbled upon. 

I love the idea of the Blogger&#039;s cafe - will there also be such a thing in Shanghai 2010? Hope to hang out there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more Jeff. I&#8217;m jealous of all those who got to attend NECC09, not necessarily because of the fabulous workshops held, but because of those unplanned conversations with people you have been corresponding with on Twitter for ages, but finally get to meet, and of course those who you didn&#8217;t know were out there, but stumbled upon. </p>
<p>I love the idea of the Blogger&#8217;s cafe &#8211; will there also be such a thing in Shanghai 2010? Hope to hang out there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Directed lessons, students under control, essential question on the board, standards covered on the board, teacher not sitting at desk............The list goes on and on for what administrators are looking at when observng teachers. It is ridiculous what some administrators expect of teachers today. My last principal would come into my classroom all the time with a dazed look on his face. All he was doing was showing his face in every classroom in the building. Face time. I would invite hime to come and see what we were doing but he could care less. Face time. 

Learning can be messy, and loud, and chaotic. I find there is no cookie cutter recipe for teaching high school students today. You have got to be flexible and creative. 

I like the idea of virtual school for the use of credit recovery to get students back on track to graduate.

The social skills of many kids I see are lacking and dramatically need improving. This is just my take from teaching in a metro Atlanta, Georgia public high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Directed lessons, students under control, essential question on the board, standards covered on the board, teacher not sitting at desk&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;The list goes on and on for what administrators are looking at when observng teachers. It is ridiculous what some administrators expect of teachers today. My last principal would come into my classroom all the time with a dazed look on his face. All he was doing was showing his face in every classroom in the building. Face time. I would invite hime to come and see what we were doing but he could care less. Face time. </p>
<p>Learning can be messy, and loud, and chaotic. I find there is no cookie cutter recipe for teaching high school students today. You have got to be flexible and creative. </p>
<p>I like the idea of virtual school for the use of credit recovery to get students back on track to graduate.</p>
<p>The social skills of many kids I see are lacking and dramatically need improving. This is just my take from teaching in a metro Atlanta, Georgia public high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we get closer to having learning communities where the hierarchy is more bottom up than top down.. we will get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we get closer to having learning communities where the hierarchy is more bottom up than top down.. we will get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Utecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Utecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learning is Messy...if only we could get our administrators and community members to understand that do you think we would have more messy learning in our schools?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learning is Messy&#8230;if only we could get our administrators and community members to understand that do you think we would have more messy learning in our schools?</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find your take on NECC and it being about conversations interesting and tend to agree to the most part. I found a similar experience when I have gone to our local state conference in California CUE.  I did quite a bit of learning via connecting with others in the hallways and through conversation. At least for a certain group (those already connected with the content on the web via twitter, blogs, etc) These conversations are a lot more valuable than sitting through a repackaged presentation you can probably find elsewhere.  

Now, how would this look in our classrooms? That&#039;s a bit more complicated. We are teaching in a very hostile environment. We are required to &quot;teach&quot; a prescribed curriculum and when our evaluators walk into our classroom they are looking for directed lessons, students under control. But even with this as a requirement I DID find myself going outside the box and allowing MY students to engage in conversation around learning. I still have a long way to go but as I am reminded by fellow elementary school teacher Brian Crosby &quot;Learning is Messy&quot; and it&#039;s just fine by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find your take on NECC and it being about conversations interesting and tend to agree to the most part. I found a similar experience when I have gone to our local state conference in California CUE.  I did quite a bit of learning via connecting with others in the hallways and through conversation. At least for a certain group (those already connected with the content on the web via twitter, blogs, etc) These conversations are a lot more valuable than sitting through a repackaged presentation you can probably find elsewhere.  </p>
<p>Now, how would this look in our classrooms? That&#8217;s a bit more complicated. We are teaching in a very hostile environment. We are required to &#8220;teach&#8221; a prescribed curriculum and when our evaluators walk into our classroom they are looking for directed lessons, students under control. But even with this as a requirement I DID find myself going outside the box and allowing MY students to engage in conversation around learning. I still have a long way to go but as I am reminded by fellow elementary school teacher Brian Crosby &#8220;Learning is Messy&#8221; and it&#8217;s just fine by me.</p>
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		<title>By: 26 Blog Posts About NECC 2009 For You By You &#124; ISTE Connects - Educational Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>26 Blog Posts About NECC 2009 For You By You &#124; ISTE Connects - Educational Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just finished reading a book by Dr.David Thornburg called Campfires in Cyberspace. While it is an older book, published in 1996, it has many good points in it especially when he talks about his view of learning.

He was attending a conference where there were many strong speakers and presentations.  The conference had been totally built around these plenary sessions but he began to notice that after a while people that had been in the sessions for a while were leaving. What he found was that they were outside in the hallways, at cafes in the conference area or just standing around talking about what they had heard.

Thornburg went back to his hotel room and came up with three learning environments.  

1) Campfires - the traditional way of presenting information -most of our schools and classrooms are still set up this way.

2) Watering Holes - what we refer to as the water cooler talk - this is where we process what we have heard.

3) Caves - this is our alone time, our solitude, our time to process on our own and this usually leads to creativity.

Later a friend suggested he needed to a fourth environment which he refers to as Life. This is the application part.  The area where we show what we have actually learned.

A quote from his book really hit me.  

&quot;Learning takes place in multiple environments, and if, any of these environments is out of balance, learning suffers and people will do something to try to restore the balance themselves.&quot; (Thornburg,1996 pg.50)

If you apply this idea to our conferences and our classrooms think of the amazing knowledge that would be developed and created.  What you are experiencing and what you are involved in at NECC applies to these environments.  I wish our schools did.

Thornburg, David D. (1996) Campfires in Cyberspace. Star Song Publications. San Carlos,CA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just finished reading a book by Dr.David Thornburg called Campfires in Cyberspace. While it is an older book, published in 1996, it has many good points in it especially when he talks about his view of learning.</p>
<p>He was attending a conference where there were many strong speakers and presentations.  The conference had been totally built around these plenary sessions but he began to notice that after a while people that had been in the sessions for a while were leaving. What he found was that they were outside in the hallways, at cafes in the conference area or just standing around talking about what they had heard.</p>
<p>Thornburg went back to his hotel room and came up with three learning environments.  </p>
<p>1) Campfires &#8211; the traditional way of presenting information -most of our schools and classrooms are still set up this way.</p>
<p>2) Watering Holes &#8211; what we refer to as the water cooler talk &#8211; this is where we process what we have heard.</p>
<p>3) Caves &#8211; this is our alone time, our solitude, our time to process on our own and this usually leads to creativity.</p>
<p>Later a friend suggested he needed to a fourth environment which he refers to as Life. This is the application part.  The area where we show what we have actually learned.</p>
<p>A quote from his book really hit me.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Learning takes place in multiple environments, and if, any of these environments is out of balance, learning suffers and people will do something to try to restore the balance themselves.&#8221; (Thornburg,1996 pg.50)</p>
<p>If you apply this idea to our conferences and our classrooms think of the amazing knowledge that would be developed and created.  What you are experiencing and what you are involved in at NECC applies to these environments.  I wish our schools did.</p>
<p>Thornburg, David D. (1996) Campfires in Cyberspace. Star Song Publications. San Carlos,CA.</p>
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		<title>By: Allanah K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allanah K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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