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		<title>By: Annie Grey</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/intro-to-firefox2-for-educators-screencast/#comment-1461</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff!!!!!

I thought you and Daneah dropped off the face of the earth.

I almost cried when I found your page.  PLEASE, PLEASE pass along my email to Daneah and have her get in touch.  Or, you get in touch!

We have lots of catching up to do!

Missing and loving you both,
Annie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff!!!!!</p>
<p>I thought you and Daneah dropped off the face of the earth.</p>
<p>I almost cried when I found your page.  PLEASE, PLEASE pass along my email to Daneah and have her get in touch.  Or, you get in touch!</p>
<p>We have lots of catching up to do!</p>
<p>Missing and loving you both,<br />
Annie</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sokoloski</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/intro-to-firefox2-for-educators-screencast/#comment-1460</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sokoloski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - please tell your student the intro/exit was AWESOME! I am learning a lot about Firefox from reading your posts and trying things out. I too am in transition at my schools going from IE6 to both IE7 and Firefox. I work in 3 PK-4 Elementary schools. One of the things that has benefited me w/ IE6 is the ability to control the behavior of IE6 through the use of policy settings on my Windows servers. For example I can  set the home page and default search engines from the server. Now it is not that I want to straight jacket folks, but having a common starting point for a lesson allows teachers an easy way to lead kids where they want to go. We all usually start on the school home page where we can build links out through grade level pages. I hope that it builds some learning that can be transferred to home where you can come to the school home page and do what you did in school today for homework and other assignments.

I also can control proxy settings through group policies.  I can send adults through one proxy and out the Internet via that route, and send kids out another way. For example I can differentiate the kinds of filtering in place by on each proxy so that adults get one thing and kids get another.  The philosophical argument about if this is a correct policy aside, it is an easy matter. I just go in and change an IP setting. I can also have fail over protection if one of my routes to the Internet goes down, just go into the server and send everybody out the route that is still alive. My counterpart at the middle school has a pretty clever technique for dealing with young folks who abuse the school&#039;s acceptable use policy and get a penalty of no Internet access for a period of time. (We also have kids whose parents request they have no Internet access in school or say they do not want their kids to have access under the terms of the AUP and will not sign off). He temporarily places them in a user group that is exactly the same as the general student population, except they are pointed to a non-existent proxy. Thus, they get network access, can get to their work on the file server, but cannot get out to the Internet.

I do not yet know how to achieve that control in Firefox. Because it is not in the Microsoft family I do not think I will ever be able to manage it like IE6 (jury is still out w/ me on IE7) I manage about 300 computers and I am the little fish in my pond (other folks manage a lot more machines). A full conversion to Firefox is going to require me, my assistant, or teachers w/ a clear set of directions to touch those 300 machines and any adjusting or tweaking will require 300 touches.

Having said all that the tools in Firefox for education are powerful and compelling and we will put these tools in place for even with the greater effort in management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; please tell your student the intro/exit was AWESOME! I am learning a lot about Firefox from reading your posts and trying things out. I too am in transition at my schools going from IE6 to both IE7 and Firefox. I work in 3 PK-4 Elementary schools. One of the things that has benefited me w/ IE6 is the ability to control the behavior of IE6 through the use of policy settings on my Windows servers. For example I can  set the home page and default search engines from the server. Now it is not that I want to straight jacket folks, but having a common starting point for a lesson allows teachers an easy way to lead kids where they want to go. We all usually start on the school home page where we can build links out through grade level pages. I hope that it builds some learning that can be transferred to home where you can come to the school home page and do what you did in school today for homework and other assignments.</p>
<p>I also can control proxy settings through group policies.  I can send adults through one proxy and out the Internet via that route, and send kids out another way. For example I can differentiate the kinds of filtering in place by on each proxy so that adults get one thing and kids get another.  The philosophical argument about if this is a correct policy aside, it is an easy matter. I just go in and change an IP setting. I can also have fail over protection if one of my routes to the Internet goes down, just go into the server and send everybody out the route that is still alive. My counterpart at the middle school has a pretty clever technique for dealing with young folks who abuse the school&#8217;s acceptable use policy and get a penalty of no Internet access for a period of time. (We also have kids whose parents request they have no Internet access in school or say they do not want their kids to have access under the terms of the AUP and will not sign off). He temporarily places them in a user group that is exactly the same as the general student population, except they are pointed to a non-existent proxy. Thus, they get network access, can get to their work on the file server, but cannot get out to the Internet.</p>
<p>I do not yet know how to achieve that control in Firefox. Because it is not in the Microsoft family I do not think I will ever be able to manage it like IE6 (jury is still out w/ me on IE7) I manage about 300 computers and I am the little fish in my pond (other folks manage a lot more machines). A full conversion to Firefox is going to require me, my assistant, or teachers w/ a clear set of directions to touch those 300 machines and any adjusting or tweaking will require 300 touches.</p>
<p>Having said all that the tools in Firefox for education are powerful and compelling and we will put these tools in place for even with the greater effort in management.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/intro-to-firefox2-for-educators-screencast/#comment-1459</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff
I have just watched the video and I&#039;m really keen to see the next ones. As a newly converted Firefox user I am eager to see what else I can do with it.

I really enjoy reading all your posts and have learnt a lot and discovered a lot of useful links and bits of software.
Thanks
Lynne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff<br />
I have just watched the video and I&#8217;m really keen to see the next ones. As a newly converted Firefox user I am eager to see what else I can do with it.</p>
<p>I really enjoy reading all your posts and have learnt a lot and discovered a lot of useful links and bits of software.<br />
Thanks<br />
Lynne</p>
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