So the accusation that they are “brainwashed” holds no water. In fact, it forms a classic fallacy: it is the equivalent of accusing all lions of being man-eaters and then accusing zookeepers who say otherwise of being “brainwashed” because they are already predisposed to work with large animals.

The author and the students clearly have some first-hand experience with the program(me), while the author of the most recent post seems to have none. The author and at least one of the students have lived, or even currently live, both within and outside the United State, while the author of the most recent post apparently has not. They avoid misusing broad terms like “socialism” and retreating into a persecuted-victim mentality just because their political party may not be in power at the moment, while the author of the most recent post…well….

My name is Lisa. I am one of the administrators of “Truth About IB” (If I mess up the html, I apologize in advance)

Indu said, When I took IB, anti-american and anti-christian never came to my mind. Also, I dont think America is a Christian country at all. I have been made fun of and harassed in the past because I was a Christian.

This in and of itself is a very disturbing “impression” for someone to have of America. While the United States is indeed a melting pot, the majority of its people practice some form of Christianity, followed by Judaeism and Muslim/Buddhist. Only 17% of the population are declared atheists. HOWEVER, it is that 17% who are making life uncomfortable for good Christian Americans. We don’t care if atheists don’t believe in God, but why do they have to shout it from the rooftops, take out billboards and call those of us who do “ignorant” and “superstitious”? Is that tolerant? Is that the America which was founded by people seeking freedom from religious persecution? Now in America, believers must be allowed to be persecuted and harrassed by atheists because it’s their First Amendment right? While IB’s philosophy is highly entwined with and supportive of the philosophy of atheists and secular humanists, of late it seems to be trying to secure a large stake in the Islam world through the Aga Khan. IB is an arm of UNESCO. It’s goal is to promote one world government through our most vulnerable and valuable asset – our children.

Dafnie is a perfect example of a child brainwashed by the left-wing agenda of IBO.

The United States is not the BEST COUNTRY in the world… define “best country”… exactly, your definition only pertains to what you feel is best for YOU. It’s all relative.

That’s what IBO taught you, that it’s all relative. It’s NOT.

The United States IS the best country in the world. It is the land of freedoms and opportunity and based on a Constitutional Federal Republic whose Constitution is currently being torn to shreds by the Obama administration. Obama LOVES IB – all good socialists do.

Here’s a hint to all IBers – there’s nothing wrong with being proud of the country of which you are a citizen. It’s not arrogant, or sinful, or wrong, or anti-international. Be proud of the ideals this country was founded on and stop apologizing and weakening our stature globally. I love my country, and I want it to be a safe place for my children to raise their children in. I can appreciate the beauty of different cultures and languages without needing to denegrate the United States. I have traveled to many countries, I took Latin and French, my children have traveled extensively, all without IB, but we don’t need to establish a mentality that the U.S is no better than communist China or France. Because bottom line folks, that’s a lie. The U.S IS better, unless we let Obama turn it into socialist France.

Constitutional, God loving Americans will be rising up. Things are getting worse rapidly. Things are getting very, very, bad.

IB is all about relativism. Those of us who oppose IB tend to fall in the “absolutist” category. We absolutely believe in God, we absolutely believe that some people are right and some people with their differences of opinion can be very, very, wrong.

This is what I find ludicrous – why is Anti-american and anti-christian put together? What exactly is American and “Christian” values? When I took IB, anti-american and anti-christian never came to my mind. Also, I dont think America is a Christian country at all. I have been made fun of and harassed in the past because I was a Christian. Geez…arent i supposed to have the freedom to be whatever religion I want to follow? Or does it seem freedom of religion applies only when you agree with it? This goes for both sides.

Ironically, I took the IB program in a school in India and you know what, ideas of Christianity was discussed openly in comparison with others. In America wouldn’t this translate into a lawsuit? It seems religious freedom is almost an oxymoron. Its from both sides- both extreme “Christians” and supposed “Liberals”

I wondering what the full story behind it is school is. There has to be more to it. This could be something blown out of proportion. In our great country USA, media and politics love to exploit controversies for political leverage. I am wondering maybe one teacher said something that offended someone or what if it is something minor. I dont think we have the full story When I was in college, I took a writing class and that teacher was a extreme liberal lunatic. I have never been subjected to so much leftist propaganda. Many times, I thought to myself “Shut up, and just teach writing, we dont care about your opinions” I just talked to my counselor and dropped the class.

IB gives different values and brings more awareness so that you will know what you believe. Also here is another thing to consider, nobody is forcing you to take IB, if you dont like it dont take it.

Christianity is a world religion. There are many Christians in the world who are not Americans. I am an Indian who immigrated to America and became a Christian. Don’t get me wrong- I love America, why else am I still in this country? But there are somethings I dont like.

I actually like the IB program and think its great. It opens doors and students are more educated. My question as a Christian is “What does my Jesus have to do with this?” I am wondering whether some people are just using the term “Christian” in vain just to make noise or that they dont know what they are talking about. I want to ask that person What exactly is a Christian? and what exactly in anti-christian?

This is another thing I am sick of in our country. Why is every issue a issue of liberal/conservative or democrat/republican…I hate this nonsense. When it comes to politics, its more like we are cheering for a sports team. You cannot categorize everything under liberal/conservative spectrum. This really blinds people from seeing the real issues. I have been dissappointed by both liberals and conservatives.

IB program under fire in the US at The Thinking Stick: I was going to write about this, but Jeff does a better job than I would have. (And he teaches in Shanghai, which give his post an additional…