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		<title>By: Dan Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/dont-try-to-control-it/comment-page-1#comment-27633</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Below is a posting from Michael Webb&#039;s Blog -- by mwebb02 -- and it speaks to the splintering of conversations that I was trying to get at (but didn&#039;t do a great job of):

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&lt;B&gt;Twitter vs Blogs or Where have all the posts gone &lt;/B&gt;
I&#039;ve just realised that I haven&#039;t posted anything since September. This is by far the longest gaps between blog postings, and I blame (or you can thank!) Twitter. In that time I&#039;ve made made about 70 Twitter updates, which may seem a lot, but I&#039;m hardly a prolific Twitterer compared to some of the people I follow.

This seems to be part of a trend - here are a few other people who&#039;ve made the same observation:

http://www.thewavingcat.com/2007/11/08/twitter-vs-blogs-revisited/

http://www.wadehodges.com/2008/12/01/catching-up-and-twitter-vs-blogs/

http://blog.andrewparker.net/2007/09/05/twitters-ruining-my-blogging/

http://graemethickins.typepad.com/graeme_blogs_here/2008/04/blogging-less-t.html

and many, many more...

So what&#039;s happening? Is this a good thing? I&#039;m not sure, but I&#039;ve a sneaky feeling that this post would make sense more as tweet &quot;Twittering more - blogging less. Is this part of trend?&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Below is a posting from Michael Webb&#8217;s Blog &#8212; by mwebb02 &#8212; and it speaks to the splintering of conversations that I was trying to get at (but didn&#8217;t do a great job of):</p>
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<p><b>Twitter vs Blogs or Where have all the posts gone </b><br />
I&#8217;ve just realised that I haven&#8217;t posted anything since September. This is by far the longest gaps between blog postings, and I blame (or you can thank!) Twitter. In that time I&#8217;ve made made about 70 Twitter updates, which may seem a lot, but I&#8217;m hardly a prolific Twitterer compared to some of the people I follow.</p>
<p>This seems to be part of a trend &#8211; here are a few other people who&#8217;ve made the same observation:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thewavingcat.com/2007/11/08/twitter-vs-blogs-revisited/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thewavingcat.com/2007/11/08/twitter-vs-blogs-revisited/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.wadehodges.com/2008/12/01/catching-up-and-twitter-vs-blogs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wadehodges.com/2008/12/01/catching-up-and-twitter-vs-blogs/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.andrewparker.net/2007/09/05/twitters-ruining-my-blogging/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.andrewparker.net/2007/09/05/twitters-ruining-my-blogging/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://graemethickins.typepad.com/graeme_blogs_here/2008/04/blogging-less-t.html" rel="nofollow">http://graemethickins.typepad.com/graeme_blogs_here/2008/04/blogging-less-t.html</a></p>
<p>and many, many more&#8230;</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s happening? Is this a good thing? I&#8217;m not sure, but I&#8217;ve a sneaky feeling that this post would make sense more as tweet &#8220;Twittering more &#8211; blogging less. Is this part of trend?&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: VRBones</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/dont-try-to-control-it/comment-page-1#comment-27615</link>
		<dc:creator>VRBones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A teacher will come to me and say “I want to blog.” OK, that’s great, but why? What are you thinking? Why do you want to blog? What do you know about a blog?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a systems analyst consulting many small businesses I used to have the same discussion. Clients would start out with &quot;I need a faster computer&quot; or &quot;I need a database&quot;.  They are the tools to achieve a goal, not the goal. What do you want to achieve? 

Once clients get back to business basics the outcome is obvious with a cost benefit analysis of different options. They don&#039;t need to second-guess what technology is required, they just need to see if a proposed solution (that may or may not involve technology) can solve their problem from a business sense. 

This is all well and good when people actually ask for a solution, but there exists another set of teachers that simply do not know that there is a possible solution out there. From a consulting standpoint this would be the responsibility of the school to schedule reviews. 

From a more personal standpoint than barging in under the school&#039;s insistence, we&#039;ve set up a laptop club where we can lightly cover different technologies each week in a fun environment so that teachers at least know what is out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A teacher will come to me and say “I want to blog.” OK, that’s great, but why? What are you thinking? Why do you want to blog? What do you know about a blog?</p></blockquote>
<p>As a systems analyst consulting many small businesses I used to have the same discussion. Clients would start out with &#8220;I need a faster computer&#8221; or &#8220;I need a database&#8221;.  They are the tools to achieve a goal, not the goal. What do you want to achieve? </p>
<p>Once clients get back to business basics the outcome is obvious with a cost benefit analysis of different options. They don&#8217;t need to second-guess what technology is required, they just need to see if a proposed solution (that may or may not involve technology) can solve their problem from a business sense. </p>
<p>This is all well and good when people actually ask for a solution, but there exists another set of teachers that simply do not know that there is a possible solution out there. From a consulting standpoint this would be the responsibility of the school to schedule reviews. </p>
<p>From a more personal standpoint than barging in under the school&#8217;s insistence, we&#8217;ve set up a laptop club where we can lightly cover different technologies each week in a fun environment so that teachers at least know what is out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul McMahon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Start with the idea&quot; This for me is the key to it all. The problem in a lot of cases is that the teacher who comes asking to &quot;learn blogging&quot; is not able to communicate what it is that they want to do differently. Unfortunately, sometimes they really do not want to do it differently at all. 
Take for example a high school maths teacher who works in one of the most artificially created positive feedback loops around. The kid has to score well at maths to have an array of choices at the next stage of education. The kid wants methodologies from the teacher. The teacher is happy to oblige with some board exercises on how to solve the trig problem and then set 12 similar practice exercises. Kid does these with some teacher support and then does well in the exam. Kid is happy, teacher feels as though they have done the right thing for the kid. Everyone happy.
The teacher hears that blogging is a good idea for lessons and sharing. This teacher comes to the ed technologist and says &quot;I want to do blogging&quot;.
I think that a lot of teachers, particularly high school teachers, are missing digital artifacts on how the tools make a difference for kids, particularly in the senior years. We need to build links to directories of these artifacts, particularly in the IB Diploma as it seems to me that the majority of international schools going 1:1 are IB schools. 
Are there links on the IB resources sites to digital artifacts for the Diploma?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Start with the idea&#8221; This for me is the key to it all. The problem in a lot of cases is that the teacher who comes asking to &#8220;learn blogging&#8221; is not able to communicate what it is that they want to do differently. Unfortunately, sometimes they really do not want to do it differently at all.<br />
Take for example a high school maths teacher who works in one of the most artificially created positive feedback loops around. The kid has to score well at maths to have an array of choices at the next stage of education. The kid wants methodologies from the teacher. The teacher is happy to oblige with some board exercises on how to solve the trig problem and then set 12 similar practice exercises. Kid does these with some teacher support and then does well in the exam. Kid is happy, teacher feels as though they have done the right thing for the kid. Everyone happy.<br />
The teacher hears that blogging is a good idea for lessons and sharing. This teacher comes to the ed technologist and says &#8220;I want to do blogging&#8221;.<br />
I think that a lot of teachers, particularly high school teachers, are missing digital artifacts on how the tools make a difference for kids, particularly in the senior years. We need to build links to directories of these artifacts, particularly in the IB Diploma as it seems to me that the majority of international schools going 1:1 are IB schools.<br />
Are there links on the IB resources sites to digital artifacts for the Diploma?</p>
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		<title>By: Jorgie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see another aspect of this.  I train teacher using Windows Movie Maker and iMovie for video creation/editing.  Many of them try to use these tools as PowerPoints slides.  I am constantly reminding them.  Use the right tool for the Job.  If you want to create a slide with links and places for you to stop and talk then yes, go back to PowerPoint.  If what you are creating is a stand alone playable video then it is time for MovieMaker or iMovie. 

Another challenge we have is we can get stuck in a technology rut.  I have often criticized previous generations of teacher for &#039;laminating their lesson plans&#039;  Meaning they don&#039;t change, but I myself have become so comfortable using PowerPoint (or other slide show style tools) that I find I am reluctant to branch into new tools.  Thanks for the encouragement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see another aspect of this.  I train teacher using Windows Movie Maker and iMovie for video creation/editing.  Many of them try to use these tools as PowerPoints slides.  I am constantly reminding them.  Use the right tool for the Job.  If you want to create a slide with links and places for you to stop and talk then yes, go back to PowerPoint.  If what you are creating is a stand alone playable video then it is time for MovieMaker or iMovie. </p>
<p>Another challenge we have is we can get stuck in a technology rut.  I have often criticized previous generations of teacher for &#8216;laminating their lesson plans&#8217;  Meaning they don&#8217;t change, but I myself have become so comfortable using PowerPoint (or other slide show style tools) that I find I am reluctant to branch into new tools.  Thanks for the encouragement.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Start with the idea and apply the tool &#124; Musings on Teaching...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a blood, tears etc. Today while scanning through my subscriptions in Google Reader I came across a post by Jeff [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Claire Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, It&#039;s always nice when someone else manages to clarify your own thoughts for you and you just did that for me. You&#039;re right it just doesn&#039;t work when you teach the tool just because you want your students to learn the tool. They&#039;re not engaged, there&#039;s no purpose, there&#039;s no meaning.  Sure, it looks good. You can say &quot;we&#039;re blogging&quot;, or &quot;my students have a ning&quot;.  But the content won&#039;t be worth anything - there probably won&#039;t be much content anyhow.

Thanks for the inspiration!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, It&#8217;s always nice when someone else manages to clarify your own thoughts for you and you just did that for me. You&#8217;re right it just doesn&#8217;t work when you teach the tool just because you want your students to learn the tool. They&#8217;re not engaged, there&#8217;s no purpose, there&#8217;s no meaning.  Sure, it looks good. You can say &#8220;we&#8217;re blogging&#8221;, or &#8220;my students have a ning&#8221;.  But the content won&#8217;t be worth anything &#8211; there probably won&#8217;t be much content anyhow.</p>
<p>Thanks for the inspiration!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Jeff:
Our job is to know all of…or as many as we can…tools that can be used to further learning. Our job is to understand how these tools and technologies can be used so that teachers don’t have to.

The first question I ask any teacher is: “What do you want students to learn?” The second question is “What’s your idea to get there?”

As the teacher is talking, I (and maybe this is just me) can start to visualize what tool they are talking about. They might not be talking about a technology at all, but I can usually visualize a digital tool that can reach the outcome they are after through their idea.&lt;/i&gt;

Dan:
Thanks Jeff for the follow up posting here. I think you are right in that one of the main roles that an effective educational technologist can fulfill is to keep abreast of, review, and sort through all of the tools out there...putting the most promising ones in one&#039;s toolbox. Then when it comes time, one can listen to the needs of the faculty, teachers, students, etc. and reach into ones toolbox for the appropriate tool(s). My father-in-law has a great array of tools to do almost any kind of homebuilding project. Similarly, I think educational technologists need their toolbox as well.

But a somewhat related though here is... &quot;How many monkeys can we expect to put on the back of teachers, professors, instructors?&quot; i.e. how many tools do they need to know? Can they know and still be up-to-date within their disciplines (along with the other duties they carry out)? 

When it comes to creating and delivering effective learning content, can one person do it all anymore? I doubt it. The bar is rising to high and too quickly. There will be an increasing push towards using TEAMS of people to build and deliver content. One of those team members will be someone with technological know-how, but there will also be instructional designers, writers/editors, programmers, videographers, digital audio experts, simulation designers, interactivity designers, etc.  Thus I predict the use of consortiums and/or pooling resources. The other possibility is what I call the &quot;Forthcoming Walmart of Education&quot; (see calvin.edu/~dsc8)

Student engagement is an area I&#039;m concerned about...with K-12&#039;ers growing up around such a media-rich environment, will it become more difficult to keep them engaged? Perhaps with the status quo ... yes. But I think if we turn more control over to students it may help. Perhaps they will create the courses of the future.

Anyway, sorry for the integration of several topics here, but I think they are all somewhat related.

Thanks Jeff!
Dan Christian
calvin.edu/~dsc8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Jeff:<br />
Our job is to know all of…or as many as we can…tools that can be used to further learning. Our job is to understand how these tools and technologies can be used so that teachers don’t have to.</p>
<p>The first question I ask any teacher is: “What do you want students to learn?” The second question is “What’s your idea to get there?”</p>
<p>As the teacher is talking, I (and maybe this is just me) can start to visualize what tool they are talking about. They might not be talking about a technology at all, but I can usually visualize a digital tool that can reach the outcome they are after through their idea.</i></p>
<p>Dan:<br />
Thanks Jeff for the follow up posting here. I think you are right in that one of the main roles that an effective educational technologist can fulfill is to keep abreast of, review, and sort through all of the tools out there&#8230;putting the most promising ones in one&#8217;s toolbox. Then when it comes time, one can listen to the needs of the faculty, teachers, students, etc. and reach into ones toolbox for the appropriate tool(s). My father-in-law has a great array of tools to do almost any kind of homebuilding project. Similarly, I think educational technologists need their toolbox as well.</p>
<p>But a somewhat related though here is&#8230; &#8220;How many monkeys can we expect to put on the back of teachers, professors, instructors?&#8221; i.e. how many tools do they need to know? Can they know and still be up-to-date within their disciplines (along with the other duties they carry out)? </p>
<p>When it comes to creating and delivering effective learning content, can one person do it all anymore? I doubt it. The bar is rising to high and too quickly. There will be an increasing push towards using TEAMS of people to build and deliver content. One of those team members will be someone with technological know-how, but there will also be instructional designers, writers/editors, programmers, videographers, digital audio experts, simulation designers, interactivity designers, etc.  Thus I predict the use of consortiums and/or pooling resources. The other possibility is what I call the &#8220;Forthcoming Walmart of Education&#8221; (see calvin.edu/~dsc8)</p>
<p>Student engagement is an area I&#8217;m concerned about&#8230;with K-12&#8242;ers growing up around such a media-rich environment, will it become more difficult to keep them engaged? Perhaps with the status quo &#8230; yes. But I think if we turn more control over to students it may help. Perhaps they will create the courses of the future.</p>
<p>Anyway, sorry for the integration of several topics here, but I think they are all somewhat related.</p>
<p>Thanks Jeff!<br />
Dan Christian<br />
calvin.edu/~dsc8</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do the students want to learn?  That is an interesting question when I as a teacher am required to teach them specific things, in my case modes of essays and research techniques.

I have been frustrated recently because I used a classroom blog to introduce low income students to the power of the internet and found it to be very successful.  But when I tried to implement it with a more 2.0 group, it bombed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do the students want to learn?  That is an interesting question when I as a teacher am required to teach them specific things, in my case modes of essays and research techniques.</p>
<p>I have been frustrated recently because I used a classroom blog to introduce low income students to the power of the internet and found it to be very successful.  But when I tried to implement it with a more 2.0 group, it bombed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mr. Utecht!  I am a Gr.6 student in the Comox Valley and I saw your comment on Mr. Dembo&#039;s blog and I totally agree with your theroy on adding a picture to posts.  When you see a colourful picture at the top of a blog it really catches eyes!  Your contribution has really helped me inprove my bloggong over the past 2-3 months!  Thanks!
-Sophie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mr. Utecht!  I am a Gr.6 student in the Comox Valley and I saw your comment on Mr. Dembo&#8217;s blog and I totally agree with your theroy on adding a picture to posts.  When you see a colourful picture at the top of a blog it really catches eyes!  Your contribution has really helped me inprove my bloggong over the past 2-3 months!  Thanks!<br />
-Sophie</p>
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		<title>By: Catie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello

I saw your comment on Steve Dembo&#039;s blog, you are right about making your posts more interesting by adding pictures and links.  Before I didn&#039;t do that stuff but now I am and my blog has became more successful.

Thanks for the advice!</description>
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<p>I saw your comment on Steve Dembo&#8217;s blog, you are right about making your posts more interesting by adding pictures and links.  Before I didn&#8217;t do that stuff but now I am and my blog has became more successful.</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice!</p>
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