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		<title>By: Sarah Fulks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Fulks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, you bring up some very good points.  Anytime we ask students to simply memorize facts without helping them connect it to the world around them, we are doing them a disservice.  With so much knowledge out there, students have to learn ways to help sort out “useless” information from knowledge they may need later on in life.  If we make connections, students will be more apt to make decisions about what they need to focus on putting to memory and what can be easily found using resources.  As far as using Google to find information, I think there is something to be said about being able to use resources.  Even superior students cannot know everything; therefore, being able to locate unknown information is a sign of intelligence as well. 


As a third grade educator, I must admit I ask my students to memorize some concepts that can be easily accessed utilizing technology—i.e. multiplication tables.  However, I feel that the more information that is in the brain, ready to be used, will only lend itself to a quick return.  Imagine if students solely relied on calculators for math, dictionaries to spell, or the Internet for knowledge.  Overall, we need to help students see the purpose for what they are learning (so educators need to be prepared to give this purpose) in order to ensure that they will be prepared for the world they will enter after leaving the walls of the classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you bring up some very good points.  Anytime we ask students to simply memorize facts without helping them connect it to the world around them, we are doing them a disservice.  With so much knowledge out there, students have to learn ways to help sort out “useless” information from knowledge they may need later on in life.  If we make connections, students will be more apt to make decisions about what they need to focus on putting to memory and what can be easily found using resources.  As far as using Google to find information, I think there is something to be said about being able to use resources.  Even superior students cannot know everything; therefore, being able to locate unknown information is a sign of intelligence as well. </p>
<p>As a third grade educator, I must admit I ask my students to memorize some concepts that can be easily accessed utilizing technology—i.e. multiplication tables.  However, I feel that the more information that is in the brain, ready to be used, will only lend itself to a quick return.  Imagine if students solely relied on calculators for math, dictionaries to spell, or the Internet for knowledge.  Overall, we need to help students see the purpose for what they are learning (so educators need to be prepared to give this purpose) in order to ensure that they will be prepared for the world they will enter after leaving the walls of the classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Cofino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Cofino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent idea! We could do a teachers vs students challenge - would love to see how that plays out too ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent idea! We could do a teachers vs students challenge &#8211; would love to see how that plays out too <img src='http://www.thethinkingstick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Utecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Utecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great questions,

I think we need to remember there are two sides to reading/writing.

One is decoding/mechanics the other is understanding/thought

By grade two most kids understand how to decode reading and the mechanics of writing, but thinking...that&#039;s a process that starts in the early grades and is continuous (or I hope it is anyway).

That is the high order skill I think we need to be teaching. Now one could argue (and I do) that the way in which we read is changing in the 21st Century. Yes we still need to decode words but we must also understand how to read hyperlinked text. Do we teach that?

And writing, have we added writing for mass audiences to the curriculum somewhere? The mechanics of hyperlinking can we/should we be teaching that in 2nd grade as well?

All great questions that I wish schools would take time to try and answer or at least reflect on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great questions,</p>
<p>I think we need to remember there are two sides to reading/writing.</p>
<p>One is decoding/mechanics the other is understanding/thought</p>
<p>By grade two most kids understand how to decode reading and the mechanics of writing, but thinking&#8230;that&#8217;s a process that starts in the early grades and is continuous (or I hope it is anyway).</p>
<p>That is the high order skill I think we need to be teaching. Now one could argue (and I do) that the way in which we read is changing in the 21st Century. Yes we still need to decode words but we must also understand how to read hyperlinked text. Do we teach that?</p>
<p>And writing, have we added writing for mass audiences to the curriculum somewhere? The mechanics of hyperlinking can we/should we be teaching that in 2nd grade as well?</p>
<p>All great questions that I wish schools would take time to try and answer or at least reflect on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Utecht</title>
		<link>http://www.thethinkingstick.com/are-you-smarter-than-a-5th-grader-my-version/comment-page-1#comment-26716</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Utecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Boy! I can look forward to playing my own game in Bangkok too! Maybe we&#039;ll have a party where we&#039;ll sit with laptops and see who can find the answer first....I feel a search lesson in Elementary coming on.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Boy! I can look forward to playing my own game in Bangkok too! Maybe we&#8217;ll have a party where we&#8217;ll sit with laptops and see who can find the answer first&#8230;.I feel a search lesson in Elementary coming on.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Cofino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Cofino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been having the exact same discussion with my husband since this show started appearing on StarWorld here in Bangkok. It makes me angry every time I see the commercial!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been having the exact same discussion with my husband since this show started appearing on StarWorld here in Bangkok. It makes me angry every time I see the commercial!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Moyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, Brandon.  Just the other day I read this article discussing a common misconception at my upper elementary/intermediate grade level:  that kids at fifth grade have already received the reading instruction they need--that in essence, those K, 1, and 2 teachers took care of all that stuff for us.

Do you think most people would agree?

The article tells otherwise; in fact, by this age, readers are only half way through their development toward being fully-matured.  The article suggested that even high school teachers must be teaching reading skills.

What most interests me is this:  how has our definition of the &quot;basics&quot; in school changed due to a restructuring of information and boom in technology?  Aren&#039;t reading and writing defined in new ways by technology?  Our students brains are adapting to this new way of thinking/reading/writing--how should instruction meet these changes?  When, in light of all of this change--not to mention the change to come--would we define a person as being fully equipped or fully literate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Brandon.  Just the other day I read this article discussing a common misconception at my upper elementary/intermediate grade level:  that kids at fifth grade have already received the reading instruction they need&#8211;that in essence, those K, 1, and 2 teachers took care of all that stuff for us.</p>
<p>Do you think most people would agree?</p>
<p>The article tells otherwise; in fact, by this age, readers are only half way through their development toward being fully-matured.  The article suggested that even high school teachers must be teaching reading skills.</p>
<p>What most interests me is this:  how has our definition of the &#8220;basics&#8221; in school changed due to a restructuring of information and boom in technology?  Aren&#8217;t reading and writing defined in new ways by technology?  Our students brains are adapting to this new way of thinking/reading/writing&#8211;how should instruction meet these changes?  When, in light of all of this change&#8211;not to mention the change to come&#8211;would we define a person as being fully equipped or fully literate?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post really interested me its something that I always wondered with those grades why did any of that matter. It’s a prep I could say to higher grades but 5 years of this is not necessary they take elementary school way to far on the repiton of material throughout the years. When I watch are you smarter then a 5th grader it seems like logical information would be on it but, the details that are given during these years are given which is un-fair for show purposes. But back to accuracy grade school its impressive how much detail we learned when we could be getting ahead of the game in other aspects of school. It’s such a waste to teach these years we should be taught to read, write and do math not learn useless details throughout these years. None of this information is necessary for the real world except the few aspects I just listed. Good post I have be thinking about that for a while</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post really interested me its something that I always wondered with those grades why did any of that matter. It’s a prep I could say to higher grades but 5 years of this is not necessary they take elementary school way to far on the repiton of material throughout the years. When I watch are you smarter then a 5th grader it seems like logical information would be on it but, the details that are given during these years are given which is un-fair for show purposes. But back to accuracy grade school its impressive how much detail we learned when we could be getting ahead of the game in other aspects of school. It’s such a waste to teach these years we should be taught to read, write and do math not learn useless details throughout these years. None of this information is necessary for the real world except the few aspects I just listed. Good post I have be thinking about that for a while</p>
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		<title>By: kimbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evening Jeff, I am sitting on the couch with the lap top (of course) and I am trying to collate a great deal of information to prove in the Performance Evaluation Committee Pilot Program that I integrate tech into my classroom...when low and behold my netvibes pops up that my 5th grader Ben wants to know how to calculate the surface area of a square pyramid and has posted the question on my blog as a comment as he is not yet allowed to skype, twitter or friendfeed...only a matter of time though!
Comment: 
I was wondering how do you find the surface area of a square pyramid?
Ben
...so I went to his blog and wrote hi ben
just got your comment about square pyramids
The Surface Area of a Pyramid

1/2 × Perimeter × [Side Length]
+ [Base Area]

and also check out some of the sites we blogged about or this one too http://www.mathsisfun.com/geometry/pyramids.html
but most of all…get some sleep
Mrs P 
after doing a quick surf...all over in a matte of minutes.
I know what Matt Moyer means when he questions how we qualify knowledge but I also agree that we must at least question the content of what we are teaching on a daily basis to our students who do have this immediate access to technology which will only increase with time.
Anyway, better get back to proving if I use tech regularly or not!
Kimbra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evening Jeff, I am sitting on the couch with the lap top (of course) and I am trying to collate a great deal of information to prove in the Performance Evaluation Committee Pilot Program that I integrate tech into my classroom&#8230;when low and behold my netvibes pops up that my 5th grader Ben wants to know how to calculate the surface area of a square pyramid and has posted the question on my blog as a comment as he is not yet allowed to skype, twitter or friendfeed&#8230;only a matter of time though!<br />
Comment:<br />
I was wondering how do you find the surface area of a square pyramid?<br />
Ben<br />
&#8230;so I went to his blog and wrote hi ben<br />
just got your comment about square pyramids<br />
The Surface Area of a Pyramid</p>
<p>1/2 × Perimeter × [Side Length]<br />
+ [Base Area]</p>
<p>and also check out some of the sites we blogged about or this one too <a href="http://www.mathsisfun.com/geometry/pyramids.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mathsisfun.com/geometry/pyramids.html</a><br />
but most of all…get some sleep<br />
Mrs P<br />
after doing a quick surf&#8230;all over in a matte of minutes.<br />
I know what Matt Moyer means when he questions how we qualify knowledge but I also agree that we must at least question the content of what we are teaching on a daily basis to our students who do have this immediate access to technology which will only increase with time.<br />
Anyway, better get back to proving if I use tech regularly or not!<br />
Kimbra</p>
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		<title>By: Reece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think like a 5th grader today: “Why should I learn this stuff when I can find it on google faster and when I need it?”

Before I begin ranting and raving, are grade 5 students asking this question or are you asking this question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think like a 5th grader today: “Why should I learn this stuff when I can find it on google faster and when I need it?”</p>
<p>Before I begin ranting and raving, are grade 5 students asking this question or are you asking this question?</p>
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		<title>By: Berek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 00:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, 

This is an interesting post. I am familiar with that show and watching people try to answer 5th grade questions is intreeging. I have never thought about using technoligy to answer those questions and I might try it next time I turn to that show. Some of the questions are actually hard and I think the people on the show wishes they had technoligy there so they could win the million dollors. On another note this idea of using the computer to find answers shows how much we have grown technoligy wise. I think that people should not take the computer for granted becuase many people in the world dont have one. Using it a lot, like for this &quot; Are you smarter than a 5th grader&quot; idea , is good becuase then you become more familiar with technoligy. Soon enough things like textbooks and real books will be gone becuase computers will take over. So for the people that do watch this show they should try this idea, maybe not for the reason pf finding answers, but for the reason of using the computer more. 


Berek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, </p>
<p>This is an interesting post. I am familiar with that show and watching people try to answer 5th grade questions is intreeging. I have never thought about using technoligy to answer those questions and I might try it next time I turn to that show. Some of the questions are actually hard and I think the people on the show wishes they had technoligy there so they could win the million dollors. On another note this idea of using the computer to find answers shows how much we have grown technoligy wise. I think that people should not take the computer for granted becuase many people in the world dont have one. Using it a lot, like for this &#8221; Are you smarter than a 5th grader&#8221; idea , is good becuase then you become more familiar with technoligy. Soon enough things like textbooks and real books will be gone becuase computers will take over. So for the people that do watch this show they should try this idea, maybe not for the reason pf finding answers, but for the reason of using the computer more. </p>
<p>Berek</p>
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